Global Collapse

China inducing rainfall to combat drought


To seed the clouds - you actually need clouds.

https://www.bbc.com/news/world-asia-china-62573547

The long term (18months to 3 years)implications of the devastating US drought on The Australian beef industry.

https://www.beefcentral.com/news/devastating-us-drought-has-strong-implications-for-australian-beef-industry-video/

Right now the market is being flooded by US producers who can't feed their cattle.  That comes back as a shortage about a year and a half from now.

 
 

As we no longer have fertilizer to grow that fresh produce, this is good news. Not only will the depleted ogallala be replenished, but the alluvial flood plains will become fertile again. It happens with the kind of flows that carve valleys during interglacial eras, not seen since noah, part also of every civilization folklore. Civilization that lived to tell their deluge myths. When it IS totally safe to build by the river or beach, soils in places like northern Europe are getting the minerals we had in the soil and need in our diet by process of glaciers grinding boulders.

These are the only options for agriculture and farming left, depend on either extreme of the glacial and interglacial to give us fertile soil, without reliance on fossil fuel gas. Manure and compost cause nitrogen, far worse than CO2. Does the MSM report on the Dutch farmers and their supporters mass protests? The good news is western govts are even paying farmers not to plant.

I've been following this discussion with interest. However, I've been too busy to contribute - wearing myself out in the heat, trying to prepare to fight wildfire here, (hopefully just a precaution without a corresponding crisis) keep the trees and soil alive in rapidly changing stressful conditions, (minimal success - the future is upon us) putting food away in a VERY challenging year, and getting in winter feed.  In a day or two I need to begin getting in firewood.  One dangerous old fart with a chainsaw and a glint in his eye.

At the moment, it is just too hot for me to drag my aging ass outside. 

Unfortunately, I detect in this discussion some of the same vibe as occurred during our discussions on the vaccines.  The term "denier" is being thrown about with the same vigor as "anti-vaxxer" was used against those who questioned the official version of events and facts surrounding C-19.  There is a similar attitude of exasperation deployed against those who question conventional wisdom regarding climate science.

I do not have the knowledge to take a stand on the chemistry of CO2.  As a person who has done no lab work on his own, I tend to look toward those who have done the lab work for insight.  Of course, an overwhelming majority of climate scientists equate the increase of CO2 in the atmosphere with global temperature rise.  I think several grains of salt and a shot of tequila are appropriate - but that is the general consensus.

In this part of the world there has been a decades-long trend toward warmer and drier.  We are losing vast swaths of forest to intense fire, insects and disease.  Wetlands disappear, causing loss of species and habitat. Species of trees, shrubs, grasses, birds, insects and mammals blink out.  Far more records for high temps, days without precip, higher minimum temps and wildfire than there are for lows.  Precipitation can, of course, come in buckets when it does show up - but it is down overall.

I mentioned before that we are losing  one of our major and most valuable tree species, western larch, to the intense heat of last summer.  They were already weakened by insect, parasite  and disease because the winter temperatures no longer get cold enough, long enough to kill off the pathogens and bugs.  I tried to fend off the inevitable by thinning out competition and saving the oldest, (many over 100yrs) best trees for regeneration. These trees had all the advantages we could give them but the heat has nailed them.  On top of last year's intense heat and drought, we haven't had any precip at all since the 4th of July. I don't think 50% of these trees will be alive in a year.  The cedar is also stressed.  It gets too hot now. This landscape is changing forever.   The pace of this change is far greater than natural phytomigration of trees and plants or migration of wildlife can keep up with.  Not even close.

For me, it is obvious that you can't cut down 70% of the world's forests, acidify, pollute and fish out the oceans, dump god knows how much poison in the water and atmosphere and exploit every resource beyond need or reason without raising hell with the climate.  But I am sure no expert on the science.  I'm just watching the trees die.

Having said that, I trust the IPCC about as far as I trust the WHO, NIH, and CDC.  Just as those agencies operate on a big-pharma agenda, the IPCC is in bed with some of the largest polluters on the planet.  They pay very little attention to solar cycles and output and will not support funding research in that area.

The fact that solar cycles, of various duration, have an effect on climate really seems obvious to me - but I don't have credentials.  The magnetic field around the planet is weakening.  The magnetic poles are moving and that move is accelerating.  I don't believe that is open to debate - it's measured by people who do have credentials.  It is also accepted that the magnetic field has influence on the migratory habits of numerous species of birds, bats, insects and more.  Since the weaker magnetic field allows more radiation of various types to reach the surface of the earth and penetrate deeply, it makes sense to me that this also has an impact on climate.

The accepted science in several fields is undergoing... challenge.  For a long time it was accepted that human migration took place to the Americas over a land bridge from Siberia 12,000 years ago.  Now it turns out that archeology has identified human habitation in the Americas about 37,000 years ago.  Studies show SE Asian and Australian DNA in South American native populations - but not in North American natives.  There is some DNA shared between native North American populations on the Atlantic coast and Europeans - but not S.Americans - from a long time ago.

Serious doubt has been cast on the "Out of Africa" theory of human origin  - again through DNA research that traces Neandertal DNA through various populations.

The accepted science can change- perhaps very slowly - but it eventually will come to the conclusion that the earth is round.  Meantime, crops are down, heat is up and the weirdness increases exponentially.

The trend is clear.  So far, the climate is generally drying and warming and the pace is accelerating.  Where this leads is not good.  Whether you "believe" it is CO2, other gasses, HAARP, the sun, the moon or the lizard people from the Andromeda cluster, the weather continues to get more extreme.  It's not just a year or two of anomalies.  I would suggest that until and unless
the built in governor that will keep climate change RPM below critical levels reveals itself and kicks in, we need to be thinking of what we are personally going to do about it.
 





 


 

I forgot to ask you if you irrigate.  If so, do you have your own source or are you a member of a water district with water rights? Flood? Pivot? Do you farm organically?  Biodynamic? 

At first I thought you were the woman interviewed by Category 5 back on the Diner.  However, that ain't you.  That was Farmgal, renowned prepper.  You haven't mentioned anything farmy or prep related on the forum here.
A search of FarmGirl on youtube yields interesting results.  I assume that is not you.  Although she may be a nice person I don't think you share the same...agenda.  Nice abs though.

You seem to either channel BuddyJ or quote him frequently. This became obvious regarding Gail T.  I think you might be BuddyJ in drag.

If I'm wrong and you are a very farmy, preppy gal, my apologies. And please don't "inform" on me too.

  I think the whole shebang will crash like a row of dominoes.

This will be a hard thing to admit.  People will wonder if they have had bullshit lives as the fossil fuel fair ends. 

Who wants to know they are bullshit?

Nobody I know.

But unemployment makes you wonder, and with no more bullshit jobs, bullshit people are between a rock and a hard place.


Bukowski knew this.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qmNLjk6tX7Q&list=TLPQMDcwODIwMjIDg6F4bHr7Tg&index=5

 

https://economicprism.com/

Another take on the "booming" job market.

So I did my best (which is not good) to register and log in.  Obviously, I failed.  I can see a situation where you just might not want participants who can't pass through the simple moron screening process.  I'd do better with carrier pigeons or two dixie cups and a string.