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No worries. As long as 25% pf the lights are on, it's not collapse.Great article. Battery backed up systems are hot commodities right now...
https://www.businessinsider.com/blackouts-power-outages-more-common-climate-change-electric-grid-infrastructure-2023-3
Get ready: More blackouts are coming
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There is plenty to talk about. My version of collapse was never about chronicling how horrible things are or are becoming. I always preferred the adaptation stories, new skills, new coping mechanisms. As someone who is 54 with kids I don't want to endlessly confirm my own biases towards collapse. I know it's out there but I do not know what it looks like. I tend to believe it's about a much reduced energy footprint and public services and continually dealing with a less and less forgiving natural world. I tend to post more where people are trying new things.I removed the topic the bot started and deleted the bot accounts.
We need something to talk about.
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Maybe collapse has run its course and we are all just...speechless?
I'd settle for taxing the **** out of second homes and flippers and speculators and air b and b hosts. In my part of the world that is what has broken the housing modelState sponsored Hoovervilles.
https://timesofsandiego.com/opinion/2023/01/14/sunbreak-ranch-is-the-answer-to-san-diego-and-americas-homeless-crisis/
Sunbreak Ranch Is the Answer to San Diego — and America’s — Homeless Crisis
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What a terribly attractive and horrible idea that won't ever work. I wonder if the people who wrote it understand large components of the homelessness they pretend to understand? Take all those people out to a nice place out of the way, allow them to police themselves in between trying to find them social services that don't exist to solve the underlying decay of society, and hope the strong don't pray on the weak after hours. And who is going to pay for that busing back to the down town areas? After they disappear on day 1, and reappear on day 2, people will complain that "I thought we paid a levy to get rid of them all!". What are they doing back on the streets? Looking for drugs I imagine, because would anyone think that those running the camps would let them shoot up, smoke meth, snort coke in the tents provided them? What happens when the stronger ones form gangs, and appropriate from the weaker ones?
I have often wondered, based on society really not caring to solve the homeless issue, if there is a solution? Other than draconisn ones obviously, all confiscated dope is poisoned and put back into circulation and then stand back and let nature take its course.
Demolish all homes so everyone lives in tents, then legalize it. Open all Malls and Parking Lots for camping and put a Porta Potty on every street corner.
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State sponsored Hoovervilles.I was thinking it sounded more like a refugee camp for your own citizens.
https://timesofsandiego.com/opinion/2023/01/14/sunbreak-ranch-is-the-answer-to-san-diego-and-americas-homeless-crisis/
Sunbreak Ranch Is the Answer to San Diego — and America’s — Homeless Crisis
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I think Tesla is just coming back to earth as you mention above. They were a speculative stock and they are becoming an industrial stock. I imagine at some point they will have to start paying dividends like other car manufacturers. I know I would not buy a Tesla as it does not meet my needs. I am very interested in the bolt, the ionic, Mazda's planned Mazda 3 ev and ford's escape ev. All of those are talking V2L and V2G which are awesome technologies going forwards. Tesla is not going down that path as they are also trying to get you to buy in to their solar and storage solutions. They are trying to create their own family of products a la apple instead of joining into existing standards. I think it backfires and they will have to join in but time will tell...Told you so.
https://www.cnbc.com/2022/12/20/elon-musk-tries-to-explain-why-tesla-shares-are-tanking.html
Elon Musk tries to explain why Tesla shares are tanking
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Did you really? I was there, bro. I cheered Tesla, though I do not own stock from ANYBODY and never will, from the start because the Model S EVwas, and still is, a reality based solution to the ☠️ pollution mobile 🦖 gas guzzler craze we have all suffered from since Rockefeller convinced Henry Ford, DESPITE the FACT that Edison Labs in 1906 made it CLEAR that ethanol was, AND STILL IS, a superior fuel, to modify the Model T's carburetor to run on Rockefeller's TOXIC REFINERY WASTE PRODUCT called "gasolene" (it has so many DIFFERENT hydrocarbon types in it that Big Oil had to invent a happy talk euphemism so the populace would go for it.).
All that said, Musk is going the same route as Howard Hughs. It's the old story about a smart man that gets too big for his britches and goes full retard arrogant CRAZY. So yeah, I am quite pleased that Tesla stock has taken a 70% plus 🌠 THRASHING.
This explanation from Wolf Street, IMHO, covers how, and why, Musk both caused Tesla stock to go MUCH higher than the fundamentals warranted AND to now become somewhat more reality based. As Wolf, the fastidious bean counter makes clear, EVs are NOT going away, bro; it is the 🦖 pollution mobiles that are headed towards the junk yard as ⚡ EVs 🌞 replace 🐗 them.
by Wolf Richter • Dec 24, 2022Tesla Joins my Imploded Stocks, -70% from Peak: Object of ReligiousVeneration 👀 Turns into ⚡ Automaker
Beyond the consensual hallucination, the real world for automakers is not fun.
SNIPPET:
Tesla’s shares fell another 1.8% to $123.15 at the close on December 23, back to where they had first been in August 2020. They’re now down by 70.3% from the high on November 4, 2021, and thereby qualify for my ballooning pantheon of Imploded Stocks. For this honor, our heroes must have fallen by at least 70% from their crazy high in the era of money printing and consensual hallucination (data via YCharts):
The stock still has a PE ratio of 38, which is ridiculously high for a profitable automaker, but ridiculously low for an object of religious veneration, which Tesla used to be. It used to be run by Elon Musk, who used to walk on water. But walking on water turned out to be boring, and Elonis having too much fun goofing off over at Twitter for all to see, and he’s too busy
tweeting goofy stuff and
annoying people, including Tesla’s current or potential customers
and shareholders.
So now, as people are coming out of consensual hallucination, they realize that Tesla is just an automaker, with lotsof competition in the ⚡ EV space, and that Musk no longer walks on water. They see that Tesla now has to do stuff that other automakers had to do for decades, like plastering big incentives on its vehicles to get them moving before year-end, talking about hiring freezes and lay-offs, and even, in a desperate move, touting possible share buybacks to try to boost its stock price. But the stock kept sinking.
And what’s the next shoe to drop? Is Tesla going to have to spend a few billion dollars a year on advertising, just like other automakers had to do for decades, in order to move the iron that is parked on vast lots across the country?
And people suddenly realized that Tesla, instead of being an object of religious veneration, is in the same overall industry – the auto industry – as other automakers, and that in terms of unit sales, this auto industry has stagnated for decades, interrupted only by deep plunges in between.
Turns out, ⚡ EVs are merely replacing ICE vehicles, not adding to them, this industry being a tough zero-sum game, and every new ⚡ competitor is taking a bite out of everyone else’s lunch, and the only way to increase revenues for the industry is by selling pricier vehicles year after year, which is what they have been doing, which is maybe why vehicle sales look the way they do (2022 new vehicle sales data through November; my estimate for December):
Full article:
https://wolfstreet.com/2022/12/24/tesla-joins-my-imploded-stocks-70-from-peak-object-of-religious-veneration-turns-into-automaker/
yup, I fully agree it only works at a much smaller scale. Bye bye hot tubs, central ac and 4000 sq ft monster homes.I just don't get why people believe going "all electric" is all that much better.? You still generate the electric power mainly by burning FFs. A grid that can power heating, cooking and A/C all from renewables so far has not been demonstrated.Depends on the grid. Ontario is over 90 percent nuclear, hydro, wind, solar. Quebec is almost entirely hydro.
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I think North America is going to have to launch into a whole new generation of building power infrastructure whether you believe in a green grid or not. Our house is all electric. I can back up my heat pump in an outage but otherwise I rely on the grid. Come spring the array and inverter should go in.
'Depends on the grid' is the point. Not all grids can be made fossil fuel free because the human race is in overshoot. We don't have enough resources to make a renewable infrastructure.
I just don't get why people believe going "all electric" is all that much better.? You still generate the electric power mainly by burning FFs. A grid that can power heating, cooking and A/C all from renewables so far has not been demonstrated.Depends on the grid. Ontario is over 90 percent nuclear, hydro, wind, solar. Quebec is almost entirely hydro.
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Total Greenwashing Bullshit.Hmm... The technology is pretty interesting but yes there is no addressing dwelling size, overall house efficiency, commuting issues, etc etc. Micro grids are hot right now. Schneider has some pretty awesome grid interactive inverters. "Grid interactive" is code here for making the most out of a shitty intermittent grid which we are probably going to see in the future. The whole feeding power to your neighbours part is interesting but none of those arrays look big enough to power those homes let alone feed others.
https://electrek.co/2022/11/02/the-first-electric-solar-and-battery-microgrid-community-in-ca/
The first all-electric community powered by a solar and battery microgrid launches in California
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the structure is what matters most. The rest is repairs...The walls might stand up to 200 mph winds, the roof won't.Every 4 ft along the top of the concrete there is a 1/2 in lag bolt at least 8 inches long anchoring the sill plate to the concrete walls. Every truss is anchored to the 2x10 sill plate. Done right it is engineered to withstand 200 mile an hour winds... You would loose shingles of course maybe sheathing but the structure survives...
https://www.cbs19news.com/story/47215383/concrete-homes-are-popping-up-around-central-virginia
Special concrete homes are popping up around central Virginia
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Without shingles and sheathing, roofs don't keep the rain out too good,
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The walls might stand up to 200 mph winds, the roof won't.Every 4 ft along the top of the concrete there is a 1/2 in lag bolt at least 8 inches long anchoring the sill plate to the concrete walls. Every truss is anchored to the 2x10 sill plate. Done right it is engineered to withstand 200 mile an hour winds... You would loose shingles of course maybe sheathing but the structure survives...
https://www.cbs19news.com/story/47215383/concrete-homes-are-popping-up-around-central-virginia
Special concrete homes are popping up around central Virginia
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I'll have to take a look at that one. Honestly the first generation of windfarms especially in Europe sucked. Not enough open land to put them in. Offshore for Europe is the way to go. North America is different we have large stretches of open windy land with proven track records. I'm not a big fan of large scale solutions personally but wind has a part toplay.Can you point a finger at a specific place that was cleared for a wind farm?
I know here they are usually placed in pastures, fields or grasslands and only after pretty detailed wind analysis to make sure they will be profitable.
https://youtu.be/7RgyLDVlAg4
My understanding is offshore wind is predictable, but inland wind is at various direction, strength and heights at various times. That's why so many are not turning when you see them.
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