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General Discussion / Re: Climate Doom
« Last post by FarmGirl on Today at 07:08:34 pm »
Following failed attempts to deny climate science, vested business and political interests are proceeding, with the support of many governments, to mine coal, sink oil wells and frack hydrocarbon gas, regardless of the consequences in term of global heating, sea level rise, inundation of islands and coastal zones, collapse of the permafrost, heat waves, floods, ocean acidification, migration of climate zones and dissemination of plastic particles, rendering the future of much of the biosphere uninhabitable.

Beyond an interesting run on sentence, vested business and political interests exist for one reason...the rapacious and all devouring human beast that can't stop, won't stop, refuses to stop....and those interests keep the supply coming. Stop consuming, stop wanting more, stop making babies...what sort of perspective thinks that the drug addicts problems are only caused by the dealers?  The one that is looking for someone else to blame, because they dare not look in the mirror and admit the truth?

We should all enjoy the time we are given as best we can, because none of us gets out of here alive, the end itself is undoubtedly a thought more traumatic than the why. And when the few left posting here expire (sooner rather than later as their are no youngsters around), our obituaries will not read "killed by climate change". It will be the normal stuff, heart attacks and strokes and accidents, maybe some bad weather, but even if killed by a tornado, does it matter that it is an F2 instead of an F1 because of our slowly warming world? Certainly not to the deceased.

Oh what a tangled web we weave, when we first practice to deceive. Ourselves. Silly monkeys we are.
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General Discussion / Re: Climate Doom
« Last post by John of Wallan on January 29, 2023, 09:41:21 pm »
Really weird weather here. Still getting flooding on the driest continent on Earth.
Technically antarctica has less available fresh water as all theirs is in the form of ice... For all the pedants out there...
Been good for my trees, which I have pretty welll gone through summer so far without watering. Only 2 drowned. Usually they die in summer from lack of water in a hot spell. Have planted another english Willow in a boggy spot, which is going great. (Good for gunpowder manufacture no less!)
Still talk of an El-nio event developing later this year. That will be the test of how well we think we have prepared. I might put in another tank over winter.

I dont argue with anyone over whether climate change is real or not any more. I just prepare for the worst and hope for the best.

JOW


link:
http://arctic-news.blogspot.com/

Text:

SUNDAY, JANUARY 29, 2023
The global climate change suicide pact
 by Andrew Glikson

Despite of deceptively-claimed mitigation of greenhouse gas (GHG) emissions in parts of the world, ongoing burning of domestic and exported fossil fuels world-wide continues to change the composition of the atmosphere, enriching it in greenhouse gases by yet another ~2 ppm CO₂ (2022: 418.95 ppm; CH₄: 1915 ppb; N₂0: 337 ppb), reaching levels commensurate with those of the Miocene (23.03 to 5.333 Ma) at rise rates exceeding any in the geological record of the last 66 million years (Glikson, 2020) (Figure 1).

Figure 1. Global 1880-2021 annual average temperatures (adapted by UCAR from ClimateCentral).

Since 1880 mean global temperatures rose at a rate of 0.08°C per decade, from 1981 by 0.18°C per decade and more when emitted aerosols are accounted for (Hansen et al., in Berwyn, 2022). According to Will Steffen, Australia’s leading climate scientist “there was already a chance we have triggered a global tipping cascade that would take us to a less habitable Hothouse Earth climate, regardless of whether we reduced emissions” (Figure 2).

Figure 2. Global mean temperature profile since 200 AD projected to beyond 2000 AD (Will Steffen)

Over a brief span of less than two centuries (Figure 1) anthropogenic reversal of the carbon cycle induced the emission of some 1.5 10¹² tonnes of CO₂ and an increased release of 150% more CH₄ from the crust, accumulated in sediments for hundreds of million years through photosynthesis and calcification, as well as from permafrost and oceans. Permeation of the atmosphere and the hydrosphere with the toxic residues of ancient plants and organisms, poisoning the biosphere, is leading to the Sixth mass extinction of species in the history of nature.

Following failed attempts to deny climate science, vested business and political interests are proceeding, with the support of many governments, to mine coal, sink oil wells and frack hydrocarbon gas, regardless of the consequences in term of global heating, sea level rise, inundation of islands and coastal zones, collapse of the permafrost, heat waves, floods, ocean acidification, migration of climate zones and dissemination of plastic particles, rendering the future of much of the biosphere uninhabitable.

Figure 3. Europe: Maximum extreme temperatures, July 17-23, 2002.

The progression of global warming is unlikely to be linear as the flow of cold ice melt water from Greenland and Antarctica glaciers would cool parts of the ocean and in part the continents (Figure 4), leading toward a stadial-type phenomenon, the classic case of which is symbolized by the Younger dryas cool period 12,900 to 11,700 years ago.

Figure 4. Projected transient stadial cooling events (Hansen et al., 2016)

National and international legal systems appear unable to restrict the saturation of the atmosphere with greenhouse gases, as governments preside over the worst calamity in natural history since the demise of the dinosaurs. Facing heatwaves (Figure 3), fires, floods and sea level rise, those responsible may in part remain oblivious to the magnitude of the consequences, waking up when it is too late.

There was a time when leaders fell on their sword when defeated in battle or lose their core beliefs, nowadays most not even resign their privileged positions to resist the existential danger posed to advanced life, including human civilization, preoccupied as nations are with preparations for nuclear wars.

It is long past time to declare a global climate and nuclear emergency.

Andrew Glikson
A/Prof. Andrew Glikson

Earth and Paleo-climate scientist
School of Biological, Earth and Environmental Sciences
The University of New South Wales,
Kensington NSW 2052 Australia

Books:
The Asteroid Impact Connection of Planetary Evolution
https://www.springer.com/gp/book/9789400763272
The Archaean: Geological and Geochemical Windows into the Early Earth
https://www.springer.com/gp/book/9783319079073
Climate, Fire and Human Evolution: The Deep Time Dimensions of the Anthropocene
https://www.springer.com/gp/book/9783319225111
The Plutocene: Blueprints for a Post-Anthropocene Greenhouse Earth
https://www.springer.com/gp/book/9783319572369
Evolution of the Atmosphere, Fire and the Anthropocene Climate Event Horizon
https://www.springer.com/gp/book/9789400773318
From Stars to Brains: Milestones in the Planetary Evolution of Life and Intelligence
https://www.springer.com/us/book/9783030106027
Asteroids Impacts, Crustal Evolution and Related Mineral Systems with Special Reference to Australia
https://www.springer.com/us/book/9783319745442
The Event Horizon: Homo Prometheus and the Climate Catastrophe
https://www.springer.com/gp/book/9783030547332
The Fatal Species: From Warlike Primates to Planetary Mass Extinction
https://www.springer.com/gp/book/9783030754679
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General Discussion / Re: Hoovervilles & Homelessness
« Last post by K-Dog on January 26, 2023, 11:40:25 pm »
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General Discussion / Re: Hoovervilles & Homelessness
« Last post by RE on January 26, 2023, 04:33:37 pm »
Where's the water?

RE
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General Discussion / Re: Hoovervilles & Homelessness
« Last post by K-Dog on January 26, 2023, 08:36:50 am »
“We have a moral obligation to help the homeless. But we are not obligated to cede our downtowns, our tourist attractions, and our residential neighborhoods to homeless encampments. And as a society, we also have a moral obligation to protect the general population from rampant infectious diseases.”

https://sunbreakranch.com/

Here she be:



Sunbreak Ranch will provide:

A better, more comfortable night’s sleep than any sidewalk, anywhere, can provide
A spectacular open-space setting full of fresh air and breathtaking views

A respectful and friendly Sunbreak Ranch staff motivated to help lift up, not tear down,
its residents



A place where threats to personal safety and public health will not be tolerated
A safe, secure, and clean environment including a permanent, on-site law enforcement post and 24/7 security patrol to help maintain peace and safety



Easy access via Highways 905 and 125 and located only 13 miles from downtown San
Diego (MTS bus and trolley service is already in place nearby, and there will be a
Sunbreak Shuttle service with a set time schedule.)
Residents will come and go from the Ranch as they please during daylight hours
No residency fee – residents only have to respect others and clean up after themselves



Free internet access and phone charging stations on the Ranch





Separate shelter choices available for single women, single men, families, homeless
children, those with pets, veterans, disabled, etc. Safety and security will be the first
priority with all sleeping arrangements.



A sheltered bed available for everyone – with a choice of multiple communal living
quarters, as well as tenting on your own on the outskirts of the Ranch, if preferred



Homeless Community Groups may be housed together, if desired


The goddamn place is offering amenities and it does not  even exist.

Rumor has it that Alex Baldwin will teach firearm safety.  His way of 'giving back'.
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General Discussion / Re: Hoovervilles & Homelessness
« Last post by Phil Potts on January 23, 2023, 02:10:08 pm »
They didn't say anything about banning alcohol and drugs at the ranch, or searching people getting on the shuttle bus. Either they didn't consider that (unlikely), or they're realistic they're not going to stop people who don't want to stop.
So it seems the idea is, get your drugs and booze and go back to the ranch, or the new policing of loitering etc they mentioned, will get you arrested. Police will probably just drive them to the ranch anyway.

They mentioned drug and alcohol rehab services, but does that include detox? It would be needed.


I have no idea what proportion are not **** addicts, who ended up unable to pay their rent or mortgage, but I'm sure it's not insignificant. Some people might not even have some unexpected emergency like getting laid off, or head gasket blows, or an illness and they just couldn't make ends meet when rent went up. If your rent goes from 400 to 500 a week and you make 800 (just a guess at the after tax take home for the avg wage),
you could be in trouble with the inflation and lose your home even if you didn't lose your work.  I'm sure that cohort of homeless would prefer having all the facilities.

Is the architect of the scheme going to pay themself at least half a mil a year out of the funding? You can BET on that
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General Discussion / Re: Hoovervilles & Homelessness
« Last post by K-Dog on January 23, 2023, 11:11:03 am »
Not somebody who has ever been homeless.

RE

Add 'worked and paid bills' to 'not someone who has ever been homeless'.

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General Discussion / Re: Hoovervilles & Homelessness
« Last post by RE on January 23, 2023, 04:01:23 am »
Not somebody who has ever been homeless.

RE
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How will they charge their EVs?

https://www.cnn.com/2023/01/22/asia/pakistan-power-outage-intl-hnk/index.html

Nearly 220 million people in Pakistan without power after countrywide outage

RE
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General Discussion / Re: Hoovervilles & Homelessness
« Last post by FarmGirl on January 22, 2023, 04:55:27 pm »
What a terribly attractive and horrible idea that won't ever work

That totally sez it.

I agree.  ;D

But the fascinating question I've got is this....theorize and describe the background, psychology, life experience, education, political affiliation  of the person who thought it was a good idea. I'm having a tough time coming up with the right combination myself.
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