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Does anyone know why Elon is playing the good cop now?

One can only guess, but clearly there are three problems for Elon.

1- fewer consumers of Teslas
2- Fewer slaves to build Teslas
3- Insufficient growth in sales to pay off his unbelievably deep well of debt

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It's ostensibly true they want to replace gas engines with electric ones because it's easier to shut off the electricity than to cut off the gas. If you start discontinuing gas production some people will get wise to what's going on and take evasive action, but when you turn off the lights everything goes dark in an instant. So to channel Evergrande and Hemingway, you will not go bankrupt in 2 stages-first gradually then all at once-but only all at once. And with Evergrande slow as mollasses.

But I think it's more likely he wants to appear to be nice so he can insert a chip into your brain while you are caught off guard.

He's Asperger's, so has a hard time not saying what he's thinking; such as us being cyborgs without knowing it, always online, more guarded but pointed remarks about covid, and simply stating the obvious on reproduction being necessary to a species survival.

I don't think it's the same as the Henry Ford business model for the masses, the cars are too expensive. It seems he sells dreams to investors and green solutions for govts needing to meet targets more than anything. Rides on a SpaceX rocket ship is a niche market. It remains to be seen how many people will still be driving in the future, I don't think it's going to be anywhere near as many as now. Tesla will probably be well placed to supply company managers and uber drivers.

Musk know what attracts attention.  He is a showman.  'More humans' is controversial, an utterance that is pure Musk.

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Musk know what attracts attention.  He is a showman.  'More humans' is controversial, an utterance that is pure Musk.

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I think he was trying to be as least controversial as he could possibly be because what he probably really meant to say is that civilization will crumble if more specialized cogs aren't educated in time  to fill all the roles the tech tree requires to stay smoothly functional...

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Re: Dieoff Errata
« Reply #107 on: December 12, 2021, 05:38:59 am »
No controversy to me.  Put the inventor in and fasten the door.  With no way out after a few days he will push the button.

Then burn the machine with him inside.  Destroy all the plans and suppress all mention of the invention for all time.

Where is the controversy?  Just go Stalin on his ass.

You don''t think people should have the right to kill themselves as painlessly as possible?  Even terminally ill people in horrible pain?

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Of sound mind and body is a minimum requirement.  O person clinically depressed can lie on the questionnaire.  They will be found not to be ****-up and get a code.   People who don't have their brains working right can get a code. You have been seduced by technology.  A decision like this has to be decided by humans who can weigh in on a persons mental state.  No **** software involved.

I find the inventor guilty of pre-crime and sentence him to death.



Silicone not 4me.  You know I like the real thing.  Some things have to stay human.
We've had right to die legislation for a while now. It's physician controlled. Originally it was for the terminally ill but it's  recently been modified to cover euthanasia even if death is not foreseeable... I like that there are humans involved in the process.
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Does anyone know why Elon is playing the good cop now?

One can only guess, but clearly there are three problems for Elon.

1- fewer consumers of Teslas
2- Fewer slaves to build Teslas
3- Insufficient growth in sales to pay off his unbelievably deep well of debt

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It's ostensibly true they want to replace gas engines with electric ones because it's easier to shut off the electricity than to cut off the gas. If you start discontinuing gas production some people will get wise to what's going on and take evasive action, but when you turn off the lights everything goes dark in an instant. So to channel Evergrande and Hemingway, you will not go bankrupt in 2 stages-first gradually then all at once-but only all at once. And with Evergrande slow as mollasses.

But I think it's more likely he wants to appear to be nice so he can insert a chip into your brain while you are caught off guard.

He's Asperger's, so has a hard time not saying what he's thinking; such as us being cyborgs without knowing it, always online, more guarded but pointed remarks about covid, and simply stating the obvious on reproduction being necessary to a species survival.

I don't think it's the same as the Henry Ford business model for the masses, the cars are too expensive. It seems he sells dreams to investors and green solutions for govts needing to meet targets more than anything. Rides on a SpaceX rocket ship is a niche market. It remains to be seen how many people will still be driving in the future, I don't think it's going to be anywhere near as many as now. Tesla will probably be well placed to supply company managers and uber drivers.

Musk know what attracts attention.  He is a showman.  'More humans' is controversial, an utterance that is pure Musk.

Relavant to the Neuralink Tower of Babel he is all in on with Bill:

This week on the New World Next Week: It's a tale of two summits as the US/Russia tensions escalate; synthetic biology is the latest poster child of the WEF boffins; and the UK mandates microc...
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...and so it begins...

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World population forecast to decline for the first time in centuries

The last time that global population declined was in the mid 14th century, due to the Black Plague'

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Nothing but the dead and dying in Johnstown PA.

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Almost 20% of Johnstown’s population lives in public housing or Section 8 rental units.
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Johnstown's population decline amplifies the impact of widespread Section 8 housing

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Nothing but the dead and dying in my Big Shity.



A smaller Big Apple: New York continues to lead nation in population decline

At least there won't be so many people to relocate when it goes underwater.



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Nothing but the dead and dying in my Big Shity.

https://www.democratandchronicle.com/story/news/politics/albany/2021/12/21/new-york-population-decline/8981869002/

A smaller Big Apple: New York continues to lead nation in population decline

At least there won't be so many people to relocate when it goes underwater.



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I wonder how much is just aging boomers retiring to somewhere warm. Florida is growing until a massive wave of snowbird boomers starts dying there.

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wonder how much is just aging boomers retiring to somewhere warm. Florida is growing until a massive wave of snowbird boomers starts dying there.

Definitely in large part the decline is due to the outward migration of retiring boomers to the south.  NYC is simply too expensive for most people to live on a retirement income.  They'll die though soon enough, one place or the other.  Miami isn't the greatest choice, since it's already flooding during King tides.

The issue is, without inward migration, where do they get replacements for the retiring slaves?

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Re: Dieoff Errata
« Reply #115 on: December 23, 2021, 11:55:53 am »
Life Expectancy  - I feel mine declining every day.

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Re: Dieoff Errata
« Reply #116 on: December 23, 2021, 12:55:30 pm »
Life Expectancy  - I feel mine declining every day.

Definitely important to retire by 66.  Assuming you start working at 18, this gives you 48 years of wage slavery, and for males just 8 years of retirement before you hit 74 and croak, a 6:1 ratiio.   No wonder the Dentist wants to retire at 61.  Hopefully he is not too **** whipped to do so. lol.

Having been forced into retirement at 55, I an now at 9 years and still counting.  Of course I'm not playing golf, but at least I don't have to go to work anymore.  It wasn't too bad either until last year.  I at least got all the SS I paid into over my years of slavery.  For however long I last and SS lasts, it's all gravy.  :)

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Re: Dieoff Errata
« Reply #117 on: December 23, 2021, 08:29:20 pm »
Life Expectancy  - I feel mine declining every day.

Definitely important to retire by 66.  Assuming you start working at 18, this gives you 48 years of wage slavery, and for males just 8 years of retirement before you hit 74 and croak, a 6:1 ratiio.   
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Do you believe in wage slavery because that is what you considered yourself to be during your working years, or because it is more of an intellectual concept that you enjoy going on about? 

Are those who work for a wage, and consider it fair compensation for the satisfaction and compensation they take from it, really wage slaves? Or just the slaves who live in da big house, and have it better?

Monday I start working part time at $19.50 an hour.  Stock work in a retail establishment.  I started collecting my social security several months ago. My savings are pale compared to the dentist in the article but at least I have some.  Point being, while I will be collecting a wage. I am far from being a slave. 

I have been stuck at home through the pandemic and now I have a job that I will not have to think about when I am not working.  The pay is enough to make it worth my while and some physical activity within limits is good for me.  It may be a good fit for now.  The situation looks good.  I'll give them good work and they treat me well.  It is a friendly place.  If it does not work out to be that way I can take the job and shove it.

I am not to be confused with someone who is highly educated but who is having to stoop to being a barista or something because they have no choice and are doing it just to get by.  I am educated, but better you confuse me with a man who is doing the **** he wants to do.  The Trotsky in this bunch, I am.  But now I have an employer and I am an employee.  I give them work they give me money.  Mutual responsibilities.  That would be true under any economic arrangement where money is paid.  If I show up Monday and there is a picket line I won't cross it, but looks to be unlikely.
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Re: Dieoff Errata
« Reply #118 on: December 23, 2021, 10:04:26 pm »
It is not fair for an owner to extract wages from profit equal to 300 times what he/she pays their average worker.  But my employer does not have to worry about me going Trotsky on their ass because what I am doing is by choice.  If I don't like it I leave.

That said:



I read it.

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Wilkinson and Pickett contend that people in more equal societies live longer, have better mental health and are more socially mobile.  In this book they present the relationship between income inequality and a range of health and social issues, using data from the 23 richest countries and 50 US states. Using 11 measures of health and social development—among them physical and mental health, drug abuse, teenage pregnancies, and child wellbeing—the authors use scatter graphs to demonstrate that people are significantly worse off in more unequal countries or states. Importantly, the observed relationship is with economic inequality, not total wealth or average per-capita income.

Now, regarding being a wage slave.  Their are people trapped in exploitative circumstances with employers who have no concept of this thing called a social contract.  These people are too poor to quit their job to find better circumstances or they don't have mental horsepower to do anything but what they are doing.  If their wages are too low for them to live a decent life and they are trapped and unable to quit they are a wage slave.  They quit they starve.  That is what makes them a slave.  There is no way for them to save or find a way out.

A less stringent interpretation is to realize that any job that pays you by the hour is never but in a blue moon going to pay enough for you to live the life of what is commonly presented on American media as middle class. 

We can't all be Dentists with millions in savings.  If you are paid a wage you will not be able to stash a million in retirement savings unless you got into a place at exactly the right time.  Being one of the first 100 employees at Costco for instance.

* I read the book and the premise is not speculation.  The data proving the premise is real.  But BFD.  Science is no longer popular.
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Re: Dieoff Errata
« Reply #119 on: December 23, 2021, 10:29:42 pm »

I am not to be confused with someone who is highly educated but who is having to stoop to being a barista or something because they have no choice and are doing it just to get by.  I am educated but better you confuse me with a man who is doing the **** he wants to do.  The Trotsky in this bunch, I am.  But now I have an employer and I am an employee.

Correct me if I'm wrong, but you're an engineer who can write code. My first suspicion would be ageism behind you not getting jobs you are over qualified for in your field.

It's a big problem, I know someone who is employed by a cement company as a casual through labour hire. He's been there a year on rates starting at 32$/hr then 40$ for time and a half and 50$ for double time. He often gets those long hours and high rates. A 12 hr shift nets him 450$. The labour hire company also takes a cut, so I'm guessing that 12 hr shift costs the cement company, at least 600$.

As a company driver he would be on about 27$ hr with no middle man expense. He's worked there for almost a year and never been late, with crazy hours like 4.30am starts at times and never screwed up yet. He informed the manager a week before his 6 month mark that released him from the obligation to the labour hire, that the company could hire him directly. Since then, 3 other cement trucks drivers were hired ahead of him. One being a female bus driver around his own age, and two men in their 30s. All had no previous experience driving cement trucks that involves at least two or three weeks extra training on top of the truck licensed they would have already had.

Why wasn't he hired instead for a permanent full time position? He's over 50.

There's that and some employers looking for the unicorn employee. He was unavailable from the cement company for a week, when he took a job driving a sewerage truck, literally pumping **** for 26$ hr. Not just septic tanks, but portaloos. He said doing septics, the pump motor still pushes air through the tank and the smell is unavoidable, also when emptying it out. It's also inside the cab of the truck, driving with windows up.  Pumping out the portaloos, he had to lift up the toilet and shove the hose into a big pile of toilet paper, s.hit and p.iss and jiggle the hose up and down to get it into the hose so it doesn't block up. Literally **** work for a fully experienced truck driver. The owner gave him three strikes, out for these things: 1, suggesting they wash off the thick hose that had poop and toilet paper stuck to it. 2 not knowing about a short cut in an area right away. 3 missing 2 portaloos on a big berry farm. He's sure that was a misunderstanding and he had done them as he had been told about them when he was there. The truck owner said he had a call from the farm they were missed. He didn't get a chance to find out if he was right, they were the same ones he was told about and did, let go. No great loss, he's fine doing the cement truck work, as a casual. Maybe the pump truck owner will find a desperate immigrant willing to get face to face with piles of poopoo and breathe the smell of sewerage all day every day until something better comes up. I told him it's not worth it and be thankful he didn't get stuck with it. 

At the end of the day, as long as the work you're getting is reasonable, it's better than nothing.

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